Mr. Alan Tonks (York South Weston, Lib.): I wanted for a moment to pursue part of the question that was asked by Mr. Bellemare with respect to the audit being directed at unions or employer groups who would be applying equity solutions to the designated groups in their training programs, how you bridge from the analysis in your audit to the prognosis for action, particularly in respect of training, and particularly if it is in the area, say, of apprenticeship training and so on being funded by a public entity, such as HRDC (1210) Mr. Rhys Phillips (Director, Policy and Legislation, Employment Equity ...[+++]Branch, Canadian Human Rights Commission): The type of programming that might be required in employment equity will depend on the nature of the gaps, where the gaps are.