M. Rey Pagtakhan: Alors, monsieur Judd, si vous aviez le budget vous permettant d'acquérir le matériel correspondant aux exigences minimales de base, n'est-il pas vrai qu'en vous contentant de moins, vous reconnaissez que les exigences de base dépassaient les véritables besoins du ministère?
Mr. Rey Pagtakhan: In the light of that, Mr. Judd, if you had a budget to buy the equipment with the original minimum requirements, would you agree that when you settled for less than the minimum requirements, the originally set requirements were therefore in excess of the original needs of the department?